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Post by Lord of Games on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:13 pm

What do you think? Are we really only meant to explore the entrance? Or could there still perhaps be an unexplored area waiting for us and has been taunting us for nine years. I've heard that if you use wireframe (or whatever it's called) mode using a Gameshark, you can see a ground where Mumbo's Mountain's lobby is.
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Post by GameMasterGuy on Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:28 pm

Nope, you can't. Hackers have found that the trail you can see a bit of using Clockwork Kazooies is actually so short that Banjo falls off of the ledge. The same applies to the slope route. As for the tower room text, I think that that's just the beta area to find Cheato, but since it wasn't obvious enough, they switched it to the entrance. The rockfalls in the lair are definitely the right size to block off the main lair, and N&B further proves this by placing them there.
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Post by Lord of Games on Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:09 pm

My theory is that originally, you were meant to beak bomb while flying into one of the lair's windows, and Cheato would have been in there. Inside the tower room, the door to the transformation room and Furnace Fun would have been blocked completely by boulders.

To be honest, I would have rathered that.

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Post by GameMasterGuy on Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:29 pm

That's what I said, and like I said, some people wouldn't have guessed to do that.
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Post by Lord of Games on Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:08 pm

Unless of course they made on the tower windows seem breakable. Because when I first played the game, I beak bombed each of the windows on the lair's tower.

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Post by treeckoman on Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:31 pm

I like LoG's theory. it makes sense.
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